Zur neuen Marketingstrategie der FSSPX

Rund um den traditionellen römischen Ritus und die ihm verbundenen Gemeinschaften.
Benutzeravatar
Sempre
Beiträge: 8891
Registriert: Sonntag 19. Juli 2009, 19:07

Zur neuen Marketingstrategie der FSSPX

Beitrag von Sempre »

Warum predigt die FSSPX nicht mehr gegen das II. Vatikanum, die neue Messe und das neue Kirchenrecht?

Ganz einfach: Eine Firma wurde beauftragt, der FSSPX ein neues "Branding" zu verpassen, und da passt das nicht mehr rein. Nicht einmal der Name FSSPX passt rein, weshalb die FSSPX dem heiligen Josef geweiht wurde und bald einen neuen Namen tragen wird.

P. Patrick Girouard, der sich kürzlich von der FSSPX getrennt hat, berichtet im Rahmen einer Predigt, was der kanadische Distriktobere P. Juergen Wegner ihm zum Thema neues "Branding" der FSSPX erzählt hat: Video in englischer Sprache mit englischen Untertiteln sowie Transskript (ab 13:15).
P. Patrick Girouard hat geschrieben:
[...]
And one of the things I would like to share with you about my conversations with Father Wegner in October... The thing that will explain why you do not anymore see the Society criticize in a strong manner, in a vigorous manner, the evils of Vatican II, the evils of the New Mass and what happens in Rome. You would think that maybe it's just that we forget, the Society is... it has forgotten its role of explaining the truth and battling against error. Maybe it's just a coincidence; just because your priest at that parish didn't think to talk about it... Well, that's what I said to Father Wegner; I told Father Wegner, I said to Father: “Look at the DICI website; look at the Angelus magazine; look at the website of the SSPX in the United States; look at the website of Father Couture in Asia; look everywhere, and you don't see any spirit of fight anymore against Vatican II and the New Mass! It seems to me that the Society has become a blunt sword in the hands of the Lord! There is no cutting edge anymore, it is useless!”

And I thought he would say: “Oh, you are wrong” or, “really, Father, we are still strong, and we are still fighting, and you are, you know, it's a misconception that you have. How can you say this?” So I was really taken aback when he agreed with me, and he said: “But yes, Father, it's true!” Well, Father Wegner agrees with me! So I thought I was making headway! I thought: “Well, that's good! Now that he understands the problem, maybe we will start to fight again!” But when my jaw dropped, was when he said that this was a good thing, this change was a good thing! Okay! Also, well, he explained to me how it came to be. He said this is not just a coincidence, or it is not because priests are becoming lazy or they are afraid of Rome. No, no! He said: “This is a decision that has been made in Menzingen, okay? Yes, Father Girouard, and this decision in Menzingen was made because we have been branded!”

So here, I don't know... You know, normally, you brand a cow! But he tells me now that the Society has been branded! So I was able to keep walking, I did not drop dead but... And then he told me: “Yes Father, that is true, and I did it!” Oh! You did it. How did you do it? “Well, when I was in Holland, District Superior, I met with somebody, I became friend with the President of a company...” (and then he named me the name of the company, it is a Flemish name which uh... is too strange to remember) but he said: “This is the fifth most successful company in Holland, so it is a very important company, a very successful company, and a couple of years ago I visited them and I met again with this man, and I asked him to take care of the Society and to do the branding of the Society, because that company is specialized in branding.”

So for those of you don't know what branding is, I will explain briefly. Branding is... That company who makes a branding, suppose it takes as their customer Coca Cola. So Coca Cola would hire that company, and would ask that company "do my branding". And that company will send men to Coca Cola offices, and everywhere, to study the whole industry of Coca Cola, to study all the advertising of Coca Cola, to drink a lot of Coca Cola! And to basically have as much knowledge of Coca Cola as possible. And then they will study all the other companies that make cola; so they will study Royal Cola, Pepsi Cola, King Cola, and so forth and so on. And they will try to figure out, and they will drink a lot of cola of course, and then they will try to figure out how could the Coca Cola company distinguish itself in a very striking manner from all the other brands. That’s the branding: To find out the striking difference of your customer and then, with the branding, they will say: Well, your product is more... It has a little bit more bitterness, or a little bit more fizz in it, and the color is more dark than the others, and so your branding should be that uh... I don't know, “Cola Cola... gives you a kick!” I don't know: “Coca Cola is a product that has more kick than all the others!” That is as an example of branding.

And so Father Wegner asked that man of that company to do the branding of the Society, and so that man said: “I will look into the Society on the website; I will let you know.” A couple of weeks later he phones Father Wegner, and he says: “Father, I refuse; I refuse the contract, because I looked over your name SSPX, and you don't have a good name out there, and I don't want my company to have the blemish of having you as a customer.” So Father Wegner says: “Well, at least give us a chance! Let's hear our own side, what we have to say. I will organize a meeting for you and Bishop Fellay in Menzingen, in Switzerland, and at least give us the chance to answer all of your questions, and after that you will decide!” So the man said : “Fair enough.” So they organize the meeting in Menzingen, and Father Wegner told me that the man went there and asked one hundred and fifty questions to Bishop Fellay, and Bishop Fellay answered all of these questions, and it lasted six hours! For six hours! And, at the end, that man said: “Okay, I will take the contract of the Society, and I will do your branding.”

So I don't know exactly how long this took... A few months... And I don't know how much it cost, but... I talked with some people, and they think it was a bundle of money, and I wish they would have given it to us, so we could have a nice church by now! And afterwards he gave the conclusion to Father Wegner and to Bishop Fellay, the conclusion of the whole survey of the branding, and he said to Father and Bishop Fellay: “Bishop Fellay, the result of my survey, is that for the last fifteen years, you had it all wrong! You will never get more faithful and more people to come to your churches if you continue this way, because right now, the Vatican II Church is like an old man dying, and it's like dying flat on the street. Like they lose their seminaries, they lose their monasteries, they sell their churches, and it is a dying church! And you are really looking bad when you continue to fight that Church! It makes you look like a cruel... or like you exaggerate, or like you are kicking somebody who is already dying! So your new branding has to change you completely! You have to stop arguing; you have to stop fighting; you have instead to go on the positive side, and to show the beauty of the traditional liturgy, the beauty of the traditional theology, and that way people will not see you as cruel, or bitter, or things like that.”

And this is why, since the branding of the society, DICI has changed; the SSPX websites have changed; the Angelus has changed. And in fact, interestingly enough, if you go back to the first issue of the new Angelus, what does Father Wegner say? Go back if you have it, and read it. He says: “We will not anymore put the emphasis on the battle and the fight, but we will put the emphasis on the beauty of the Gregorian chant, the beauty of art...” And so forth and so on. Go ahead and read it. It is exactly the branding of the Society and, really, I had to put my jaw back into place, because I said to myself: “I thought that if there was one person in the world who was authorized, and who knew better, as of the branding or the definition of the Society, that would have been its founder, the Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre! Not a layman who is not even a Catholic, who is not even a traditional! How can you go ask a pagan to define what we are, and what we should do? It is a complete madness!

They accuse us of not being supernatural, and what is that: to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to that company, a pagan company, and to say: “Well! Forget about Coca Cola! And do the SSPX, brand us!” Instead of listening to the founder, instead of reading the founder, who said who we were! As if what the founder said was not good enough, and now we have to have pagans telling us what to do!

So we refuse to do that, and this is why we have started our chapel here, of “Saint Joseph Defender of the Church”. And today, this morning, you have read and you have signed this mission statement that says to everybody why we are doing what we do, and it is not because of emotions, or anger, or resentment, or bitterness. It is because we have read these documents and we have understood that the Society has been changed, and has been doing a one hundred degree cycle, and we are not anymore doing what we should do. And, therefore, this is the only way we can continue. We are not making anything new here! You know that I have not preached to you, I have not shown to you any article that is new! We are continuing exactly what you came to Langley for, and Langley is not doing it anymore, and no other parish is doing it anymore in the SSPX. Because they have to follow the General Chapter of 2012, where now they accept the principle of signing a deal with Rome. It doesn't matter if it's not signed yet, because you have accepted the principle: “But yes! We can do a deal with Rome without the conversion of Rome!” And we refuse that, because it's a Revolution. We just continue here, in this hall, what we have been doing from the beginning.

So, my dear friends, we will have to continue to pray for each other to be strong, and to pray for all our other friends who remain in Christ the King. I am in contact with others who are not here this morning, and I have given them these articles and documents, and they are studying them. I will not name them. They have to take the time to study, and to be convinced. But, you know, you are not alone here. There are other people who want to continue the real fight of the SSPX. Let us pray for each other and for them.

In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Amen
Fazit: Die FSSPX ist nicht (mehr) auf den wahren Glauben und das Heil der Seelen aus, sondern die FSSPX ist (nun) eine Sekte, die auf die Kohle des dummen Volks aus ist.

Benutzeravatar
Protasius
Moderator
Beiträge: 7124
Registriert: Samstag 19. Juni 2010, 19:13

Re: Zur neuen Marketingstrategie der FSSPX

Beitrag von Protasius »

Daß die Piusbruderschaft nicht mehr gegen die neue Messe predigt, stimmt nicht, wie die kürzlich verlinkte diesjährige Fronleichnamspredigt von Pater Schmidberger zeigt.
Der so genannte ‚Geist’ des Konzils ist keine autoritative Interpretation. Er ist ein Geist oder Dämon, der exorziert werden muss, wenn wir mit der Arbeit des Herrn weiter machen wollen. – Ralph Walker Nickless, Bischof von Sioux City, Iowa, 2009

Benutzeravatar
Sempre
Beiträge: 8891
Registriert: Sonntag 19. Juli 2009, 19:07

Re: Zur neuen Marketingstrategie der FSSPX

Beitrag von Sempre »

Protasius hat geschrieben:Daß die Piusbruderschaft nicht mehr gegen die neue Messe predigt, stimmt nicht, wie die kürzlich verlinkte diesjährige Fronleichnamspredigt von Pater Schmidberger zeigt.
Ich korrigiere: Die Piusbruderschaft sieht die neue Messe neuerdings als legitim an.

Der springende Punkt, um den es hier geht, ist allerdings: Die Piusbruderschaft geführt vom Kassenwart Bischof Fellay tut nicht mehr, was die Kirche tut, sondern tut, was Kassenwarte so tun.

Benutzeravatar
Melody
Beiträge: 4263
Registriert: Mittwoch 22. März 2006, 16:05
Wohnort: in der schönsten Stadt am Rhein... ;-)

Re: Zur neuen Marketingstrategie der FSSPX

Beitrag von Melody »

Sempre hat geschrieben:
Protasius hat geschrieben:Daß die Piusbruderschaft nicht mehr gegen die neue Messe predigt, stimmt nicht, wie die kürzlich verlinkte diesjährige Fronleichnamspredigt von Pater Schmidberger zeigt.
Ich korrigiere: Die Piusbruderschaft sieht die neue Messe neuerdings als legitim an.

Der springende Punkt, um den es hier geht, ist allerdings: Die Piusbruderschaft geführt vom Kassenwart Bischof Fellay tut nicht mehr, was die Kirche tut, sondern tut, was Kassenwarte so tun.
Sorry, das halte ich für Unfug.

Und ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, da kürzlich noch ganz anderes in einer Predigt gehört zu haben, allerdings sind das immer die Stellen, wo ich persönlich mich dann frage, musste das jetzt sein.......
Ewa Kopacz: «Für mich ist Demokratie die Herrschaft der Mehrheit bei Achtung der Minderheitenrechte, aber nicht die Diktatur der Minderheit»

Antworten Vorheriges ThemaNächstes Thema